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#24727: "Loading game log history takes a lot of time"
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When returning to a turn-based game, the game log history is loaded. In other games, this is usually quite fast, but in The Crew, it takes a lot of time and takes more and more time as the number of missions increases. Is there a reason why it is quick in other games but so slow in The Crew? Is there a way to improve this?• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
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18 Σεπ 2020 23:32 • squarerootofthree • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I had a game get to about 2,500 moves. I understand this might be purely a problem with the BGA backend and the way games are loaded but it would take 90 seconds to load the table!
9 Οκτ 2020 17:23 • bgilmartin3 • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
This has been an annoyance to me as well. It would be nice if there was a way to delete the log history after completing a mission so that it starts fresh for each new mission and the loading time can be reduced.
9 Οκτ 2020 23:19 • cglafontaine • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Agree with bgilmartin 3 - we only really need a log for the mission currently underway, the complete log is far too long.
14 Οκτ 2020 17:31 • The Archon • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Just the current mission and the last mission ( for sake of discussion) would be sufficient.
15 Οκτ 2020 15:52 • grinspy • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
For any group playing campaign this is a MUST.
30 Οκτ 2020 16:31 • Scott_Bailey • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Playing the campaign. Mission 26 w/ 45 total attempts (learning experience for most of us). Can confirm, it takes way too long to load the log!!!
I think it would be adequate to show the current mission log and the result of previous missions. Maybe like so:
<current mission start>
...
<current mission end>
Mission 2: commander y - success
Mission 1: commander x - success
Mission 1: commander y - fail
I think it would be adequate to show the current mission log and the result of previous missions. Maybe like so:
<current mission start>
...
<current mission end>
Mission 2: commander y - success
Mission 1: commander x - success
Mission 1: commander y - fail
9 Νοε 2020 19:03 • tsaunat • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
It is also really noisy as it loads.
17 Νοε 2020 21:12 • Scottus • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Just keep the last 100 moves and chat
22 Νοε 2020 15:45 • qantrim • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I agree. Only need a log for the current mission. My group complains about the same thing with having to load the entire log.
23 Νοε 2020 1:54 • Usay Dress A H • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Table #125171767
Fine on Windows 7 but slow on iPad.
Even when the VERY first mission is about to end.
Fine on Windows 7 but slow on iPad.
Even when the VERY first mission is about to end.
23 Νοε 2020 20:49 • vcsorensen • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I've gotten to Mission 36 with friends in campaign mode and I'm pretty sure the game chat included everything from mission one which means the game chat takes FOREVER to load!
25 Νοε 2020 21:27 • marsleclair • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
We only need the current mission info.
26 Νοε 2020 3:52 • Bruce Leroy 33 • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Yeah, loading the entire history is completely unnecessary, and detracts greatly from the enjoyment of the game.
I'd suggest either only loading the history, for the current mission; or better yet, just have a grid of all possible cards and showing which ones have already been played out, during the current mission.
Thanks!
I'd suggest either only loading the history, for the current mission; or better yet, just have a grid of all possible cards and showing which ones have already been played out, during the current mission.
Thanks!
28 Νοε 2020 22:50 • mamacy • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
What about clearing the history to only the current or past 5 missions or something to lesson the information?
29 Νοε 2020 22:58 • Glompbot • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I think if BGA can work out a way to clear the history between missions? so it trims M-1 (leaving only the current mission, and one mission previously in the log) that would be the ideal solution.
21 Δεκ 2020 18:59 • CanuckEddie • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I just wonder why this game does this.
Other games don't walk you through game history - its just there if you want to go see it. (saving cases where it is deliberately hidden of course)
Other games don't walk you through game history - its just there if you want to go see it. (saving cases where it is deliberately hidden of course)
5 Ιαν 2021 7:54 • Izaak VC • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
This is indeed a problem when playing turn-based if the browser is opened again.
A solution could be to load only the last N actions and loading N more actions on demand by clicking the arrows at the bottom of the log display.
This would also decrease server traffic loads.
A solution could be to load only the last N actions and loading N more actions on demand by clicking the arrows at the bottom of the log display.
This would also decrease server traffic loads.
7 Ιαν 2021 20:47 • veniatregnum • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Also agree that only the current or most recent mission's history is of pertinent value - loading the entire campaign's worth of individual tricks is a giant resource hog and delays returning to a turn-based game.
11 Ιαν 2021 16:40 • Aeneas90 • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Totally agree with this one! history of older missions are not needed.
22 Ιαν 2021 17:50 • marsleclair • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Alternatively, an option to turn the log off or hide it entirely would not only solve this issue but would be truer to the real game since you're not suppose to see the cards that have been played. Adding this option as a button or just in the settlings would be a great addition, especially for advanced players.
29 Ιαν 2021 14:28 • Po-tay-toe • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Highly frustrating.
There is no need to load the history of missions that are completed. Only the active missions is relevant!
There is no need to load the history of missions that are completed. Only the active missions is relevant!
29 Ιαν 2021 14:52 • The_Bish • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
This needs fixing. On mission 43 and it's pretty unbearable. Just moves in current mission are required. Otherwise, great job.
But please fix this!!!
But please fix this!!!
29 Ιαν 2021 16:22 • TanRu • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Agree with the suggestion above to show only the current mission.
9 Φεβ 2021 20:03 • rbu • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
It woud be great to load only the history of the curent mission.. it's not like the history of past missions bring useful information..
21 Φεβ 2021 9:46 • Wentu • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
I totally agree that current and one previous mission is enough, otherwise, it takes way too long to load.
15 Μαρ 2021 19:33 • zoilean • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
Agreed - this is essential. I'm up to mission 29 and the game is becoming unplayable.
Either just show the last 2-3 mission or give a button to clear history.
Otherwise awesome game
Either just show the last 2-3 mission or give a button to clear history.
Otherwise awesome game
15 Μαρ 2021 19:49 • SingleSlayer • Αυτή η πρόταση δεν έχει αναλυθεί ακόμα από τους προγραμματιστές:
just show the last 1, 2 or 3 missions please.
Or just current mission when re-loading.
Or just current mission when re-loading.
18 Μαρ 2021 9:27 • Tisaac • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
Nothing I can do on my side, that's a framework issue so it should be addressed by admins.
If you started your table in campaign mode, you can just leave it at the end of a mission and hit "rematch", that will re-start at the same point without loosing any progression.
Leaving this report so you can upvote.
If you started your table in campaign mode, you can just leave it at the end of a mission and hit "rematch", that will re-start at the same point without loosing any progression.
Leaving this report so you can upvote.
18 Μαρ 2021 9:29 • Tisaac • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
Nothing I can do on my side, that's a framework issue so it should be addressed by admins.
If you started your table in campaign mode, you can just leave it at the end of a mission and hit "rematch", that will re-start at the same point without loosing any progression.
Leaving this report so you can upvote.
If you started your table in campaign mode, you can just leave it at the end of a mission and hit "rematch", that will re-start at the same point without loosing any progression.
Leaving this report so you can upvote.
18 Μαρ 2021 11:24 • huehnerlady • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
What I do in that case is cancelling the next mission and then 'propose a rematch'. if you then choose campain you start at the same mission as you left of, if the game is with exactly the same people
20 Ιουλ 2021 19:14 • Phoxtrot • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
Yeah, that's basically what we did.
We finished a mission, abandoned the game and started a new one at the next mission.
Just to reduce the load times.
We finished a mission, abandoned the game and started a new one at the next mission.
Just to reduce the load times.
20 Ιουλ 2021 19:21 • Phoxtrot • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
And yeah, it's a framework issue.
I think I once reported it as such, can't be sure.
The basic idea is that the framework should allow game to define natural breakpoints and the game would only keep info down to the last or previous last or previous previous... (configurable per game) breakpoint.
The tricky part is that the game must be able to restart from such a breakpoint without executing all the prior actions. This requires to save enough information in some kind of state object to properly reproduce the "board". (For instance, if you have a game where tokens can be placed on top of one another, you would need to redraw those tokens taking that piling up into consideration from a global state as you would no longer be able to always replay the actions that led to this piling up)
I think I once reported it as such, can't be sure.
The basic idea is that the framework should allow game to define natural breakpoints and the game would only keep info down to the last or previous last or previous previous... (configurable per game) breakpoint.
The tricky part is that the game must be able to restart from such a breakpoint without executing all the prior actions. This requires to save enough information in some kind of state object to properly reproduce the "board". (For instance, if you have a game where tokens can be placed on top of one another, you would need to redraw those tokens taking that piling up into consideration from a global state as you would no longer be able to always replay the actions that led to this piling up)
29 Οκτ 2021 20:48 • Ninolia • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
This is also a huge problem for turn-based Nippon lately. Every time I open the game I'm forced to reload several times to get all moves, at least after we passed 100+ moves. It just stops loading randomly after 100+ moves.
Tonight 2021-10-29, I already tried reload 4-5 times, still no luck getting all history. Very frustrating, plus it also puts unnecessary load on your servers.
I think this is a very weak implementation for performance. It should only load current game status at start +the last round of moves. Any more history should be on request only. This should probably be implemented for all games, i.e. probably in the framework.
Tonight 2021-10-29, I already tried reload 4-5 times, still no luck getting all history. Very frustrating, plus it also puts unnecessary load on your servers.
I think this is a very weak implementation for performance. It should only load current game status at start +the last round of moves. Any more history should be on request only. This should probably be implemented for all games, i.e. probably in the framework.
16 Φεβ 2022 4:23 • Gonzabianchi • Οι προγραμματιστές θα ήθελαν περισσότερες πληροφορίες σχετικά με αυτή την υπόδειξη.:
Could this be a problem with not the game by itself, but another problem with the quantity of games you are playing? I have problems in all the games, and I currently playing 30+ turn based games...
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