#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
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• Παρακαλούμε κάντε αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του μηνύματος που βλέπετε στην οθόνη σας, αν υπάρχει.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Παρακαλώ εξηγήστε τι θέλατε να κάνατε, τι κάνατε και τι συνέβη
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Παρακαλώ κάνε αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του κειμένου που απεικονίζεται στα αγγλικά αντί για αυτό που είναι στη γλώσσα σου.. Αν έχεις απόσπασμα οθόνης από αυτό το σφάλμα (είναι καλή αυτή η πρακτική), μπορείς να χρησιμοποιήσεις το Imgur.com για να το ανεβάσεις και να κάνεις αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του συνδέσμου εδώ.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• είναι αυτό το κείμενο διαθέσιμο στο σύστημα μετάφρασης; Αν ναι, έχει μεταφραστεί για παραπάνω από 24 ώρες;
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Παρακάλώ εξηγήστε την πρότασή σας με ακρίβεια και περιεκτικότητα, ώστε να είναι όσο το δυνατόν πιο εύκολο να γίνει αντιληπτό τι εννοείτε.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Τι εμφανιζόταν στην οθόνη όταν σταμάτησε (Κενή οθόνη; Μέρος του περιβάλλοντος του παιχνιδιού; Μήνυμα σφάλματος;)
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Ποιο μέρος των κανόνων δεν έγινε σεβαστό από την μετατροπή του παιχνιδιού για την BGA
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Είναι η παραβίαση των κανόνων ορατή στην αναπαραγωγή του παιχνιδιού; Αν ναι, σε ποια κίνηση;
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Ποια ήταν η δράση του παιχνιδιού που ήθελες να κάνεις;
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Τι προσπαθείτε να κάνετε για να ενεργοποιείσετε αυτήν την ενέργεια του παιχνιδιου;
• Τι συνέβη όταν προσπαθήσατε να το κάνετε αυτό (μνμ σφάλματος, μνμ στην μπάρα κατάστασης, ...);
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Σε ποια φάση του παιχνιδιού προέκυψε το πρόβλημα (ποιά ήταν η τρέχουσα οδηγία στο παιχνίδι);
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Τι συνέβη όταν προσπαθήσατε να κάνετε κάποια ενέργεια στο παιχνίδι (μνμ σφάλματος, μνμ στην μπάρα κατάστασης, ...);
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Παρακαλούμε περιγράψτε το πρόβλημα απεικόνισης που έχετε. Αν έχεις απόσπασμα οθόνης από αυτό το σφάλμα (είναι καλή αυτή η πρακτική), μπορείς να χρησιμοποιήσεις το Imgur.com για να το ανεβάσεις και να κάνεις αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του συνδέσμου εδώ.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Παρακαλώ κάνε αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του κειμένου που απεικονίζεται στα αγγλικά αντί για αυτό που είναι στη γλώσσα σου.. Αν έχεις απόσπασμα οθόνης από αυτό το σφάλμα (είναι καλή αυτή η πρακτική), μπορείς να χρησιμοποιήσεις το Imgur.com για να το ανεβάσεις και να κάνεις αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του συνδέσμου εδώ.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• είναι αυτό το κείμενο διαθέσιμο στο σύστημα μετάφρασης; Αν ναι, έχει μεταφραστεί για παραπάνω από 24 ώρες;
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
• Παρακάλώ εξηγήστε την πρότασή σας με ακρίβεια και περιεκτικότητα, ώστε να είναι όσο το δυνατόν πιο εύκολο να γίνει αντιληπτό τι εννοείτε.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Ποιο είναι το πρόγραμμα περιήγησής σου;
Safari v15.3
Ιστορικό αναφορών
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
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- Το F5 έλυσε το πρόβλημα;
- Το πρόβλημα εμφανιζόταν αρκετές φορες;Παντού ; Τυχαία;
- Αν έχεις απόσπασμα οθόνης από αυτό το σφάλμα (είναι καλή αυτή η πρακτική), μπορείς να χρησιμοποιήσεις το Imgur.com για να το ανεβάσεις και να κάνεις αντιγραφή/επικόλληση του συνδέσμου εδώ.
